Friday, April 13, 2012

[Balancing Suggestion] Tower Rook: Bzz, bzz, bzz, bzz...

[:1]So tower Rooks. They are hard to kill. Fine, I can kill almost everything with my UB even a tower Rook inmidst his farm protected by a Regulus (he had no mana for mines left after killing all the creeps). Priests, massive health stacking, Sigil of Vitality, health pots... Its expensive and takes some prep work but its doable.



He was a smart one, he saw it coming and stunned me (standard tactic) then used Orb of Defiance so I had to stay a little longer and use my Sigil and a health pot. He dies, Regulus is chipping away the last of my health, I'm in the middle of his tower farm, I know I wont make it in time. Well fine by me, I needed to get him out of there. Bzzz, bzz, bzz, bzz. I die.



What happens now however isn't fine: his towers kill me and he gets the gold for the kill?!?! WTF! He is dead! He shouldn't get any money. I don't get money or XP when a spit victim dies of DoT after I died. (I'd like to check this again but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Regulus who got the kill and the money.)



The timer counts down, I go back to cap the flag, but guess whos back already happily advancing his tower farm into our Cataract backyard. Most of his towers are still standing because Regulus killed off the creeps at the edge of the farm.



I can understand from a design perspective that tower rook needs some of his towers to remain standing even when he is dead. He can teleport back and isnt completely vulnerable. But I think 2 or 3 towers would be enough. There has to be some bonus if you manage to kill the Rook in the middle of his farm, right?



Here is the game in case you want to see how it turned out:

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game ... yer/11000/ 8)



Still, in my opinion there should be some relief and bonus for the other team if you kill the Rook. Either his towers could start loosing HP fast, all but the last 2-3 could crumble instantly or - they could simply become inactive for the time he is dead. It would be enough time for the creeps, minions and other players to take down at least a few of the towers and recap and lock a flag.|||If a general dies, their minions die.



Just because your minions are rooted to the ground shouldn't give them special privaleges.|||Z32|||Even if it says you get gold, if your dead you wont.|||JWest|||This is a non-issue, the real problem is you walking straight in his towerfarm and killing him while he was supported by reg, were they feeding you or something? Because thats not really supposed to be possible in a real game.



P.S. you still get the gold when your death animation isnt finished yet.|||DeadMG|||Rooks' towers are fine. I'm shocked you guys think they are so strong. Haven't you been playing for a while now?|||Yes, but before he gets the Vlemish... and Tower III is 400 mana. Remember also there's the 10 sec CD, so that's 80 sec to put up a whole farm, which is far too long to react.



I think that Rook's towers should scale with the Rook himself. He summons two only at any time for no mana cost, they have unlimited duration and count as Rook himself for capping flags etc. If the Rook targets a target in range, the tower will target that too.

Then as the ranks go up, they'll become closer to Rook, e.g.



Tower 1 - 30% of Rook's health and DPS (mirrored ROF)

Tower 2 - 60%

Tower 3 - 90%

Tower 4 - 100% - Towers gain the same range as maxed Regulus.



This way, they scale to the time of game and the potential of Rook nicely.|||RMDShadow|||DeadMG|||RMDShadow|||SleepWarz|||SleepWarz|||Col. Jessep|||Col. Jessep|||RMDShadow|||ItzDP|||Rain of Ice, just as I die, killing the enemy dg yields no gold for a torch. Thats why I made that assumption. Even though I got the kill my gold stayed around 200.|||Thank you Sorian for taking a look at the lua files. I'll try to test it later and let you know when I find out.|||Spooky helped me to test it and guess what, the Rook gets the full amount of gold while being dead:



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There was no issue with the death animation either, we had a few seconds between the kills.



Thx for the help Spooky! Also always listen to Sorian if in doubt, his words are wisdom! :D|||Death animation. 'nuff said.|||Lifekatana|||Col. Jessep|||Col. Jessep

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